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I don't even know how to talk to someone who thinks evidence weighs in favor of the Noah's Ark myth. It is literally less believable than a talking snake. I'll try my best though.


Originally posted by InGold:
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Explain why almost every culture has a global flood account somewhere in its makeup?

Because "great" floods happen all the time. Almost all societies have constructed their villages and towns along rivers and oceanfronts. Rivers and oceanfronts all experience devastating floods for a variety of reasons over time. Furthermore, great storms occur periodically in all parts of the globe. They are more common in certain parts than in others and certain areas are subject to risks that others are not, but great storms happen everywhere when you look at meteorology over the course of centuries and millennia.

Particularly when discussing the oral traditions of prehistoric cultures, the concept of "global" is foreign. The world that is seen and known is what is traveled and quite local. A "great" flood that submerges the "world" of prehistoric village would be expected to be recorded in oral history as an apocalyptic event. That most cultures would have a record in their oral history of a great flood is evidence neither of a) concurrent great floods or b) a worldwide great flood. It is merely anecdotal evidence that these cultures thought about (and probably experienced) floods that decimated their villages.

For example, would you not expect the 2004 tsunami to enter oral history had they occurred 2500 years ago?


Originally posted by InGold:
It is interesting that the Chinese character for “ship” is derived from the idea of “eight persons in a vessel.” This bears a striking resemblance to the Bible account about Noah and his family, eight persons, who survived the Flood in an ark (1Pe 3:20)


Arguendo that this coincidence was something more than a coincidence, I find it remarkable that you feel the most distinguishing element of Noah's Ark was that it housed 8 people (as opposed to the millions of species).


Originally posted by InGold:
Then there is just massive amounts of evidence from the scientific world too.
Where. You also do understand that you have to explain away the LACK of evidence of a flood too (those things that would be expected to happen if enough water were placed on earth to flood the globe -- which water simply does not and never has existed).


Originally posted by InGold:
Next you will explain away the sea shells I found on the top of the Matterhorn 3 years ago. They were not imbedded in rock nor fossilized.
Amazing, I didn't realize you were a geologist. When you carbon dated the seashells what results did you get. Did you find erosion of the calcium carbonate due to heat or exposure to C02 rich water? Did you or all of the other people who have found your amazingly non fossilized and 6,000 year old seashells actually document your findings or publish anywhere?

No, because the only seashells that have been documented to have been found on mountains got there in the manner that science eventually explained. This was a great argument for something that science couldn't explain... until plate tectonics were understood (a relatively new phenomenon).

But I don't mean to offend your personal scientific experiments in favor of a great flood. (PS. Arguendo again, even if your seashells were legitimate, that does not prove a flood. There are, quite simply, too many things that would be expected to occur and be a consequence of a great flood that are counter to observation).



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