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Originally posted by NewYorkDore:
As a side note, although there's a lot we don't agree on, I do appreciate our conversations when they are civil. I'm sorry for the few times I've been snippy.

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It's all good. I understand where your arguments come from and I don't necessarily disagree 100% with them. I just feel there is room to question them and explore alternate theories. Science and history are always a work in progress. Today's absolutes have often times been revised. Sometimes drastically.



Posted on 2/2 9:41 PM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by force10jc:
I just feel there is room to question them and explore alternate theories. Science and history are always a work in progress. Today's absolutes have often times been revised. Sometimes drastically.

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There is an obligation to question and challenge what you think you know. That's the basis of science. Further, only math deals in absolutes. A big problem with this is the inability of the masses to understand the concept that a scientific theory, when achieving consensus, is at the highest level of reliability under the then current human knowledge. Some folks have taken to calling them "scientific facts" to give it a bit more umph; however, all people who understand science know that new data can change the consensus over time and science is always searching for that new data. Science doesn't rest on laurels and people would do well to examine their beliefs with the same critical eye that scientists examine the collective knowledge of humanity.



Posted on 2/2 11:01 PM | IP: Logged

I'd further note that I blame you guys and the whole BYX scandal at VU for me not being able to write my baseball previews in a timely manner.



Posted on 2/2 11:07 PM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by NewYorkDore:
I'd further note that I blame you guys and the whole BYX scandal at VU for me not being able to write my baseball previews in a timely manner.

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who are "you guys"?

if it people of faith then lets go ahead and expose it,

Religion has no place being in some of the places it chooses to go.....and like Jesus said....his true followers would be "No part of the world", not recluse as some have taken it but like him not part of the political world....(political is just one of the worldly aspects life his followers avoid.

If the link below does not take us directly to image setting for the search just click the image setting.....like they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

This post was edited on 2/4 9:15 AM by InGold

Link: Religion has no place


Posted on 2/4 9:14 AM | IP: Logged

InGold... that was a joking post. I've been spending too much time in here and on the BYX issue and not enough time writing the previews. Using the term "You guys" was in no way associating you with that. Further, it was not meant to be accusatory to you guys. If you haven't been in the War Room, VADore, others and I have been heartily trying to get to the bottom of the issue.



Posted on 2/5 1:46 AM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by NewYorkDore:
InGold... that was a joking post. I've been spending too much time in here and on the BYX issue and not enough time writing the previews. Using the term "You guys" was in no way associating you with that. Further, it was not meant to be accusatory to you guys. If you haven't been in the War Room, VADore, others and I have been heartily trying to get to the bottom of the issue.

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me too....time....jest.....

I was just pointing out that religion has played a major roll in places it should not. I find it easy to distinguish what Jesus pointed to as "false profits" and he indicated that they would be plentiful and they are thick...very thick.

MAtt7:15?“Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16?By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17?Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18?a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19?Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20?Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].



Posted on 2/5 9:06 AM | IP: Logged

As a side note, although there's a lot we don't agree on, I do appreciate our conversations when they are civil. I'm sorry for the few times I've been snippy. Posted on 2/2 7:09 PM | IP: Logged

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