Originally posted by NewYorkDore: With respect to both InGold and Force's comments regarding b) and my comment about something from nothing.
... virtual particles are one form of particles that pop into existence from nothing. Dirac's example is of positron-electron pairs that pop into existence but have a combined energy = 0...
NYD, I know you don't want to talk to me again after our previous round, but I'd just like to ask a question here about these "spontaneous" particles: aren't they more of an indicator of a creator than the other way around? No evolution or random chance involved here, right? Just because they appear to arise from nothing doesn't mean they arise from "nobody."
Another point I was about to make when we abruptly ended our conversation back when: have you ever considered that you can't find understanding of a spiritual God --or lack of one-- through the natural sciences? The Bible says that God is spirit and must be worshiped in spirit.
Your scientific interest, which I admire, is a pursuit of knowledge. What about a pursuit of wisdom, which, IMO, is a spiritual thing. As it's written: "the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom."