Originally posted by NewYorkDore: BR> ...But the point here is one of the pursuit of knowledge...If we stopped asking questions, where would this world be today? Perhaps my biggest beef with the bible is that it viewed the Tree of Knowledge as a bad thing...<<
I totally agree about the pursuit of knowlege. From my perspective, whenever science has a new breakthrough, my response is "oh, that's how God did it!" I should admit, however, that I'm woefully uneducated in the sciences.
As for the Tree of Knowlege, keep in mind that it was The Tree of Knowlege of Good and Evil. Until the command of God not to partake of it was violated, evil didn't exist in the world. Eden was a "heaven on Earth." Maybe that thought would possibly lessen your objection a bit.
Finally, I just want to re-emphasize my reasons for intruding here:
--the spontaneous particles seem to me to be more a case of nothing from something than something from nothing. They have an energy factor of zero, you said. They play no discernible role in anything, right? Nothing from something.
--wisdom vs knowledge. You go to books, seminars, etc to find knowledge. Where do you go to find wisdom? Is knowledge much good without the needed wisdom to interpret it and use it? Seems to me in some cases it might even be a dangerous thing.
I'll try to bow out now and leave you to your discussions with Vadore, InGold and Force. No iron-clad promise, though. :)