Originally posted by 4VANDY: Finally, I just want to re-emphasize my reasons for intruding here:
--the spontaneous particles seem to me to be more a case of nothing from something than something from nothing. They have an energy factor of zero, you said. They play no discernible role in anything, right? Nothing from something.
An eloquent point and a nice turn on things. In reality though, the virtual particles, including positron-electron pairs, do have an impact on two levels: a) they can be separated under extreme circumstances, rather than self-annihilating, whereby they exist on a long form basis, rather than for a virtually imperceptible flash and b) they are believed to cause vacuum energy (which is thought to have a role in inflation. That said, I really do like the subtle turn of nothing out of something.
As to another point made, I think "Oh, that's how God did it!" is a million times better than "Science must be wrong because it conflicts with my interpretation of religious scripture."
On the Tree of Knowledge, I am aware that it was knowledge of sin that was discovered and that it brought death, carnivores and disease into the world. It remains the ultimate symbol of celebrating ignorance.
As for wisdom, I would argue that religion is not the sole province of wisdom (and more particularly of morality). I agree that there is a distinction between data and wisdom, with knowledge floating somewhere in the middle. And for all the moral hazards that are warned of about knowledge without wisdom, there is an equally grand risk of denying knowledge in the name of ancient wisdom.
This post was edited on 2/6 1:48 PM by NewYorkDore